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06.05.2006, 22:57
Hello!
06.05.2006, 23:45
what are you talking about??!?!?! Tell me, what kind of provider is this?
07.05.2006, 00:04
The TalkTalk provider, moreover, does not even try to deny its foulness!
It seems that they absolutely do not care about the number of their clients.
07.05.2006, 00:21
Hello!
The problem is this: the provider is in violation of the contract,
completely blocked P2P traffic, as a result of which eMule cannot download anything.
The provider filters traffic, completely cutting off P2P traffic without cutting off everything else.
Changing ports and connecting via PROXY server did not bring any results.
How could one bypass P2P filtering?
You could try something like Hide ID, but I don't think it will work. Change your provider, you're not the first to have this problem. see adjacent threads.
07.05.2006, 00:32
Hello!
The problem is this: the provider is in violation of the contract,
completely blocked P2P traffic, as a result of which eMule cannot download anything.
The provider filters traffic, completely cutting off P2P traffic without cutting off everything else.
Changing ports and connecting via PROXY server did not bring any results.
How could one bypass P2P filtering?
07.05.2006, 01:47
I don’t know about e-Mule, I don’t use it; but the Bittorrent protocol includes traffic encryption, after which the provider’s filters become ineffective.
Well, read (http://torrentfreak.com/how-to-encrypt-bittorrent-traffic/). Or search for the words “bittorrent traffic encryption” in a search engine.
07.05.2006, 01:47
www.torrentspy.com
07.05.2006, 02:18
or maybe the azureus program, I download it..
www.torrentspy.com (http://www.torrentspy.com)
Azureus is, as follows from the article in the posting, one of those programs that supports encryption of bittorrent traffic. Also BitComet and uTorrent at least.
07.05.2006, 13:30
The provider cannot do this, because... Each time you connect, different communication channels are created, i.e. your partner has a different IP address. The problem here is you. Either you need to update your e-mule, or there are problems with registration. Try BitComet.
Can't it block ports? Although in this case everything can be solved very simply by the settings in the mule.
07.05.2006, 13:56
can't it block ports? although in this case everything can be solved very simply by settings in the mule.
Theoretically, you can do anything, but such things lead to too much load on the equipment; at peak load, everything will come to a screeching halt. and you also need to attract a specialist who would figure out where and how, and there are a lot of unwanted clients (in their minds). they do it simpler, they cut down the bandwidth.
07.05.2006, 18:00
The provider cannot do this, because... Each time you connect, different communication channels are created, i.e. your partner has a different IP address. The problem here is you. Either you need to update your e-mule, or there are problems with registration. Try BitComet.
I'm afraid that port-based filtering, which you are talking about, is yesterday's day for providers. Regular, non-encrypted P2P traffic is already filtered at the application level:(
07.05.2006, 18:51
I'm afraid that port-based filtering, which you are talking about, is yesterday's day for providers. Regular, non-encrypted P2P traffic is already filtered at the application level:(
But basic encryption is a very good way to save fellow pirates for now :) I don’t know if emul has this, but it already exists in torrent. People happily report: IT WORKS, without it let’s say 50 KB/sec, with it 180 KB/sec.
Let's show the providers the "50%" gesture (the right arm bends at the elbow, the left goes into the elbow bend at 50% of the length of the right;-))
It’s strange that it prevents them from filtering encrypted messages. This doesn't change the essence. I don't think the provider makes filtering decisions based on useful data.
07.05.2006, 20:18
It’s strange that it prevents them from filtering encrypted messages. This doesn't change the essence. I don't think the provider makes filtering decisions based on useful data.
As far as I understand, it is not the content itself that is encrypted, but the entire package, after which it is no longer recognized by application-level P2P filters. But here's the problem. There's still more left overall volume traffic, even if not recognized as P2P, will still be detected...
I read FUP TalkTalk. It is said that they DO NOT prohibit P2P, but for a lot of traffic and copyright violations they will tear up, limit, and throw out clients. With such hatred, “selfish users,” they say.
I wouldn't touch such a provider with a barge pole. These rednecks really seem to think that the internet is needed to load web pages...
I had a case when a friend complained that he couldn’t download anything through BitComet. I also racked my brains, but on the site from which it was previously downloaded it clearly said: update to the latest version. Which, naturally, was done. After that, everything worked successfully.
Yes, that happens. In theory, for all its vileness, TalkTalk does not kill P2P traffic, but rather shapes it, so you need to check the client settings before giving the verdict “it doesn’t work 100%”.
07.05.2006, 21:48
People, relax...
If the provider wants to block p2p traffic, he will do it.
As for the fact that “it will stand up like a stake”, etc., this is defiantly incorrect information; pieces of hardware that, say, a 10 gigabit channel on the fly can strictly filter, cost about half a million bucks, which is a trivial amount for a normal installation.
Of course, there will still be options, but not everyone will be able to use them due to lack of knowledge :)
As for encryption, it’s also not a panacea, the fact is that each type of traffic has its own characteristic “features” - and without knowing the contents of the traffic, you can block it using certain signatures.
A simple example - I need to block ICQ for users, but do not touch the ports
Cisco 6500 + IDS module (about $50k in total) - and users are under a cloud, ICQ simply won’t work - even via ssl, even in open form;) I personally did...
You understand - for every nut there is a bolt.
The bottom line IMHO is simple - everything is leading to the fact that there will be no unlims left anywhere in the world... Simply because otherwise the Internet will be screwed - crowds of lemmings will stupidly clog up channels with terabytes of worthless traffic.
Providers will not prohibit such traffic, but if they cut the bandwidth from 10 megabits to 100 kbits - with a bang;) This is also easy to do in hardware, you just push such useless traffic into a common pipe, where thousands of leechers are already stuck;)
By the way, I don’t really like leechers myself, to put it mildly...
08.05.2006, 01:08
Yes, that happens. In theory, for all its vileness, TalkTalk does not kill P2P traffic, but rather shapes it, so you need to check the client settings before giving the verdict “it doesn’t work 100%”.
Well, for example, if you don’t open the incoming port for an application in the firewall, the speed will be either none or even 0...
That's the point, everything was fine for me, the reception speed in eMule
was 80-120 kb/s, and after three weeks of downloading, it suddenly stopped downloading at any time of the day. (Based on the combination of parameters, eMule is the most suitable program for me).
I DID NOT CHANGE ANY settings!
I checked everything dozens of times - firewall, antivirus, eMule settings,
changed ports, connected via PROXY,
I even formatted the disk, reinstalled Windows and tried to download WITHOUT FIREWALL AND ANTI-VIRUS - for absolute
"purity of experiment" so to speak.
The result of all these manipulations is zero.
It would be one thing if my speed simply decreased, but I
It’s generally close to zero! And this applies ONLY to P2P traffic.
Over the past three weeks, there have been two “bursts” at night, lasting several hours, during
which eMule began to download. the first time the speed was 10-15 kb/s,
the second time as much as 90 kb/s. The rest of the time - reception of 0.0 kV/s at any time of the day.
That's why I would like to know if there are any ways to get around
P2P filtering, or is it hopeless?
08.05.2006, 02:14
Eh, I can only sympathize. A friend of mine has a similar situation, by the way, while helping him, I discovered this:
TalkTalk have blocked the use of P2P software
this block is removed between the hours of 01:00 and 09:00 GMT
Those. it will pump at night.
In addition, my friend’s contract has an interesting point, unlimited downloads. If you are allowed to download only 8 hours a day, this is called a limit, and talktalk violates the contract.
Of course, you can go to great lengths, but if your nerves and time are precious, just change your provider. And remember the old proverb - I'm not rich enough to buy cheap things =))
08.05.2006, 10:50
If the question is about downloading films, then some go in one fell swoop, and some are simply “dead”. try downloading something else to make sure that filtering is taking place.
08.05.2006, 15:15
everyone has multiplied correctly here, you know, pirates - you should all be in one cage :)
08.05.2006, 15:37
08.05.2006, 15:42
Don't fool yourself, change your provider. I fooled around with the squeeze for a long time - they pinched in every way, I went to the prodigy - they don’t care.
so there's a contract! We just signed an 18-month deal with them - we'll see what happens! :isee:
08.05.2006, 16:03
where is the contract? Prodigy doesn’t have a contract, we stayed with Tiscal for more than a year, the contract expired, and they offended us in every way. True, when they left, they began to persuade us - like, we have moved away from the policy of infringing on donkey breeders, so stay... but I didn’t believe it, because everything was very slow for me, it was still the same, and I didn’t believe that they would remove it in a couple of weeks I believed, and there were previous grievances: charging us for half a year at the old rate of 25 pounds, when new clients were charged 15 pounds for the same package, but if the prices had risen, this would not have happened, I think. after the call they began to charge 15, but did not return the money. They sent threatening letters - either about copyright, then it turned out that it was a mistake, or about sending spam - of course I didn’t send them. and all the time - we will turn it off, we will sue... everything is quiet and calm with the prodigy. real unlimited.
08.05.2006, 16:17
where is the contract?
TalkTalk has a contract which the author is talking about
08.05.2006, 23:15
Absolutely right - the contract is for 12 months.
They will charge us 70 pounds for termination.
unspeakably outraged.
09.05.2006, 00:37
Absolutely right - the contract is for 12 months.
We've only been using TalkTalk broadband for a month.
but we already know for sure that we will terminate the contract.
They will charge us 70 pounds for termination.
Well, nothing - it’s a matter of principle, TalkTalk is simple
unspeakably outraged.
and for us it’s 18 months: fear: :isee:
Explain who is the true violator of the terms of the contract. And this is the answer to the first letter...
The service is simply amazing. First time I encountered this in the UK
There is no need to write to technical support, because... We have already received a response from them. I would write to service@, sales@ or info@ with a complaint about inadequate support and with a promise to complain to Ofcom or trading standards and demand that the promised service be immediately restored in full. To be convincing, we can say that we are not at all against blocking copyright content, but let p2p remain in full.
There is only one danger here: if the provider has nothing to do or is greedy, then he may start monitoring your traffic and will contact some media production association, so be careful when you start fighting with the provider. I would just try to bore them so much with complaints and strong traffic of legitimate content that they themselves would offer to cancel the contract. Download full Linux distributions, FreeBSD, free clipart collections, etc. day and night. If you see that the speed is dropping, it means they have started shaping the traffic - immediately file a complaint both with the provider itself and against him. In one of your complaints, hint that you have no particular desire to stay with this provider, but they won’t receive a disconnection fee either! :)
AND . But then the provider corrected itself, the connection stopped disappearing for more than half a day and, it seemed, everything got better.
Probably, other subscribers also appreciated the success of the provider, because some time ago, the download speed began to drop sharply in the evenings and weekends. It seems to me that they have recruited a lot of clients, but the network cannot cope.
What to do? That's right, you just need to cut off torrents for all subscribers so as not to interfere with normal people:
With my channel 8Mbps (~ 1Mbps), the speed is reduced to ~ 200 Kbps, that is, in 5 times. Moreover, at any time of the day, although at night, as a rule, all providers allow downloading without restrictions, even mobile ones.
Calls to technical support, as expected, had no effect:
- Yes, there is a problem, we are working on it
- No, we do not have the ability to restrict certain traffic
- Yes, there is no such equipment for analysis
- What does your speedtest show? Well, you see, everything is 8Mbit/s, no restrictions
- Where in your contract is it written that the speed of torrents should be maximum?
Oh well, torrents, but PS4 network games, hanging out on PSN, connecting via SSH, uploading backups and other activities not related to VKontakte gatherings began to slow down for me. After thinking about it, I came to the conclusion that it is limited all UDP traffic, without analysis. After all, they don’t have the ability to analyze traffic - but the protocol can be killed.
For the first 2 weeks I thought that there was some problem with the network or the provider’s settings, but then it became clear that this was a deliberate policy. It is necessary to somehow deceive his equipment, but how? It's simple.
We rent a VPN from HideMe, set up openvpn on the home server and all traffic local network will be wrapped in this encrypted TCP tunnel. The download schedule changes dramatically: 
There is exactly one drawback - in addition to 790 rubles per month for the Internet, 350 rubles for VPN are added. But there are also advantages:
- All incoming/outgoing traffic has become encrypted and anonymous.
- You can change servers at least every 5 minutes, along with IP addresses and countries
- Accordingly, you can bypass any restrictions and blocking of sites
#!/bin/bash echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward iptables -F INPUT iptables -Z INPUT iptables -P INPUT ACCEPT iptables -F OUTPUT iptables -Z OUTPUT iptables -P OUTPUT ACCEPT iptables -F FORWARD iptables -Z FORWARD iptables -P FORWARD ACCEPT iptables -F -t nat iptables -Z -t nat iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -s 192.168.100.0/24 ! -d 192.168.100.0/24 -j MASQUERADE
When connected to a VPN, you can configure your server, forward ports, and generally use ready-made service It turned out to be many times more pleasant than raising your VPN on a VPS (I tried it, yes).
It is almost impossible to decrypt, analyze and trim such traffic. From the outside it looks like connecting to a single website via HTTPS. Of course, you can ban the IP of this “site” on the SkyMax network, but this will definitely go beyond any limits, and HideMe has a lot of IPs.
Well, if you suddenly want to return to a slow unencrypted connection, then simply disable openvpn on the server.
Conclusion - for every cunning provider there is an even more cunning client.
Method 1: Using Tor
Exists famous network Tor, which helps to bypass all sorts of restrictions, but it is not intended for the volumes that torrent networks use. It is possible that the speed will not be the greatest and there will be no anonymity. Next, we will consider a simple option using this network exclusively for communication with trackers. To do this, you will need a working and configured Tor. Just download and run Tor Browser. You can immediately press "Connect".
To set up a torrent program, follow these steps:
Method 2: Connect to a VPN
A VPN is a virtual connection to a network that can encrypt user traffic by redirecting it through an external server, which can be located in any country. There are paid VPNs, but you can also find free ones.
An example of a VPN connection will be shown in operating system Windows 10, so on other OSes, some options may differ.
After the procedure, you will be able to bypass any regional restrictions and freely download files in a torrent client. If you have a connection error, try a different address.
Several basic methods have been listed here to bypass torrent client blocking. Now you know how to download files using torrent smoothly and without worrying about restrictions.
